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Report your table minimums here (COVID Edition) part 3

Part 3 in the COVID series.
To try and make this list more helpful, I have added Weekend Day and Weekend Night, as those can be vastly different than during the week.
I'm trying to monitor Twitter and the Vegas Message Board to get some additional information.
Keep sharing all that wonderful goodness.
I'd like to update the wiki to talk about what sidebets casinos have, so if you know that info, I can add it to the table comments.
Vegas Strip Casino Day Min Night Min Weekend Day Weekend Night Dividers Comments
Aria 10 10 Unknown Unknown No Updated 7/26
Ballys 10 15 10 Unknown 3 tables Updated 8/8
Bellagio 10 25 Unknown Unknown Yes, all tables
Caesars 15 25 Unknown Unknown No
Cosmo 15-25 50-100 Unknown Unknown
Encore 10 10 10 10 Yes, on some tables Updated 8/12
Excalibur 10-15 15 10 15 Updated 8/12
Flamingo 15 15-25 Unknown 25 Updated 8/8
Harrah's 15 25 25 25 No
Linq 15 15 Unknown 25 No Updated 8/8
Luxor 10 10 15 15n Updated 8/12
Mandalay Bay 15 Unknown Unknown Unknown
MGM Grand 10 25 Unknown Unknown Yes
NY/NY 10 15-25 15 Unknown Yes Updated 8/8
Osheas Unknown 15 Unknown Unknown
Paris 15 15 Unknown Unknown No Updated 8/8
Sahara 5 10 10 10 Updated 8/15
Strat Day 10 Unknown 10 25 No
Treasure Island 5 15 Unknown Unknown
Venetian 10-15 25 Unknown Unknown No
Wynn 10 10 10 10 Yes, on some tables Updated 8/12
Downtown Casino Day Min Night Min Weekend Day Weekend Night Dividers Comments
Binions 5 10 Unknown Unknown Binions had $5 table several times (opens at noon) Updated 8/17
California 10 10 Unknown Unknown Tables open at 11AM Updated 8/10
The D 10 15 Unknown Unknown No glass
Downtown Grand 10 10 Unknown Unknown Table opens at noon. Updated 8/10.
El Cortez 10 10 10 10 Yes, some tables 2 tables Updated 8/15
Four Queens 10 10 10 10 No Updated 8/15
Fremont 10 10 10 Unknown Updated 8/10.
Golden Gate 10 15 Unknown Unknown Updated 8/18
Golden Nugget 10-15 10 Unknown Unknown $15 with one table open on 8/18
Plaza 10 10 Unknown Unknown Updated 7/30
Sams Town 15 15 Unknown Unknown 1 table
Offstrip Casino Day Min Night Min Weekend Day Weekend Night Dividers Comments
Aliente 10 10 Unknown Unknown
Boulder Station 10 10 Unknown Unknown
Cannery 5 5 Unknown Unknown up to 2 tables - now allowing 4 per side
Ellis Island 5 5 5 5 1 table - Updated 8/17 - I just called the pit at Ellis. Craps table opens up at 10am and its 5 dollars 90% of the time
Gold Coast 10 10 Unknown Unknown
Green Valley Ranch 10 10 Unknown Unknown 2 tables open
The Orleans 10 25 Unknown Unknown up to 4 tables, I was asked to wear a mask
Palace Station 10 10 Unknown Unknown Unknown
Palms N/A N/A Unknown Unknown No open date announced
Red Rock 10 15 15 Unknown Updated 8/14
South Point 5 5 5 10 No Updated 8/15
Strat 5 10 Unknown Unknown
Sunset Station 5 5 Unknown Unknown
Other NV Casinos Day Min Night Min Weekend Day Weekend Night Dividers Comments
Edgewater (Laughlin) 10 10 Unknown Unknown
Harrahs (Laughlin) 10 15 Unknown Unknown no
Atlantis (Reno) 5/10 5/10 Unknown Unknown 3 tables on weekends
Cal Neva (Reno) 5 5 Unknown Unknown
Circus Circus (Reno) Closed Closed Unknown Unknown Closed table game pit
Eldorado (Reno) 5 10 Unknown Unknown
Grand Sierra (Reno) 15 15-25 Unknown Unknown
Peppermill (Reno) 5 5 10 10 3 craps tables
Silver Legacy (Reno) 10 10 Unknown Unknown
Hard Rock (Tahoe) 5 5 Unknown Unknown
Harrahs (Tahoe) 10 10 Unknown Unknown
Montbleu (Tahoe) 10 15 Unknown Unknown
Nugget (Wendover) 5 5 5 5 Updated 7/31
Peppermill (Wendover) 5 5 10 10 Updated 7/31
Rainbow (Wendover) 5 5 10 10 Updated 7/31
Non/NV Casino Day Min Night Min Weekend Day Weekend Night Dividers Comments
Wind Creek (Wetumpka, AL) 15 25 Unknown Unknown 4 to a table Updated 7/31
Sycuan (San Diego, CA) 10 10 Unknown Unknown Masks required
Barona (So Cal) 10 15 10 10-15 2 tables 2 per side, dealers managing bets for players. Updated 8/21 ($10 at times)
Harrahs (So Cal) 15-25 15-25 15-50 15-50 No Updated 7/31
Viejas (So Cal) N/A N/A Unknown Unknown No live tables
Foxwoods (CT) 15 25 Unknown Unknown
Mohegan (CT) 15-25 25 Unknown Unknown 2 were 10, 2
Harrington (DE) 15 15-25 Unknown Unknown Must wear mask and face shield
Rivers (Chicago, IL) 15 15
Blue Chip (Michigan City, IN) 5 10 Unknown Unknown 5 minimum prop bets, 5 min ATS bet.
Caesars Southern IN 10 15 15 25 Updated 8/5
French Lick Resort (French Lick, IN) 15 15 25 25 Tables open at 11am and close at 3AM. Updated 8/5
Harrah's Hooiser Park (Anderson, IN) 10 10 Unknown Unknown
Indiana Grand (IN) 10 15 Unknown Unknown No
Belle (Baton Rogue, LA) 5 10 Unknown Unknown one half sized table sometimes they open the big one. $5 small table and $10 big late at night
Hollywood (Baton Rogue, LA) 5 10 Unknown 15 Updated 7/24
L’auberge (Baton Rogue,LA) 15 15 Unknown Unknown No
L’auberge (Lake Charles,LA) 15 15 Unknown Unknown No 1 bubble craps $5 min
El Dorado (Shreveport, LA) 10 10 10 10 Updated 8/17
Horseshoe (Shreveport, LA) 15 15 15 15 Updated 8/17
Margaritaville (Shreveport, LA) 15 15 15 15 Updated 8/17
Ocean Downs (MD) 10 15 Unknown Unknown
Maryland Live (MD) 25 50 50 Unknown Yes 5 tables, 4 per side. Electronic craps 15 min
MGM @ National Harbor 50-100 Unknown Unknown Yes 4 craps tables 2 were $50 and 2 were $100 mins. Not bubble craps or low roller options.
Firekeepers (Battle Creek, MI) 10 15+ Unknown Unknown No dividers, only distancing 1-2 tables depending on demand, did see it at $15 during the day $25 on Fri/Sat night. Masks required, no smoking. $3 Bubble Craps.
Four Winds Casino 15 15 Unknown Unknown Digital craps table 5$ min Tuesday and Sunday night. Did not check bubble craps
Gun Lake (Wayland, MI) 10 15 Unknown Unknown No Temp check, masks, usually the crapless table is open
Turtle Creek (Traverse City, MI) 5 Unknown Unknown Unknowned 2 tables, temp check, masks
Soaring Eagle (Mt Pleasant, MI) 10 15 Unknown Unknown Yes 5 players per side with glass. Tough to hear dealer.
Hollywood Casino, Maryland Heights (St Louis) MO 15 15 Unknown Unknown 1 regular table & 1 no craps. 4 per side. No outside drinks.
River City (St. Louis, MS) 20 20 Unknown Unknown Unknown 4 players per side. $20 min. You have to have at least a $20 bet for every throw to "hold your spot"
Beau Rivage (Biloxi, MS) 25 25 Unknown Unknown unknown 3 tables
Boomtown (Biloxi, MS) 10 10 Unknown Unknown Unknown 1 table
IP (Biloxi, MS) 25 25 Unknown Unknown
Scarlett Pearl (Biloxi, MS) 15 25 Unknown Unknown No Masks required, temp check
The Palace Biloxi, MS) 10 15 Unknown Unknown
Treasure Bay (Biloxi, MS) 10 10 Unknown Unknown
Harrah’s Cherokee & Murphy 15 15 Unknown Unknown No
Harrahs River Valley (Murphy, NC) 25 25 Unknown Unknown
Ballys (AC, NJ) 15 15 Unknown 10 Updated 7/29
Caesars (AC, NJ) 15 15 Unknown 15-25 Updated 7/29
Harrahs (AC, NJ) 15 15 Unknown Unknown
Hard Rock (AC, NJ 15 25 Unknown Unknown 2 tables - Updated 7-29
Resorts (AC, NJ) 15 25 Unknown 15 Yes 1 table - Updated 7-29
Ocean (AC, NJ) 10 15 15 25 Yes 4-6 tables
Buffalo Creek (NY) 15 25 Unknown Unknown
Seneca Niagra (NY) 10 15 Unknown Unknown 1 table, can go up to $25
Jack/Harrah's (Cincinnati, OH) 25 25 25 25 3 tables, $25 open to close
Hollywood (Columbus, OH) 10-15 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown 2 tables, masks required
Hollywood (Grantville, PA) 15 25 Unknown Unknown Unknown 2 tables, masks required
Harrah's Philly (PA) Unknown Unknown 15 25 Updated 8/10
Meadows (PA) 10 10 Unknown Unknown 2-3 tables.
Mohegan Sun (PA) Unknown Unknown 25-50 Unknown
Windcreek (PA) 10 10 Unknown Unknown
Mount airy (PA) 10 10 Unknown Unknown
Valley Forge (PA) 10
Parx (Bensalem, PA) 15 25 Unknown Unknown 15 but maintaining 25
Southland Casino Racing (West Memphis, TN) N/A N/A Unknown Unknown Yes 4 tables all closed. Other pit games open with plexiglas dividers. Bubble craps $5 minimum.
Mardi Gras (Nitro, WV) 15 Usually open on weekends - Updated 7/28
*Last update 8/21
Part 1. It's getting buried so I figured we would make a new one. Part 2
Pulled additional info from here.
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In 1982, two women disappear together in South Lake Tahoe, CA. Five and six months later, their bodies are discovered—but it seems they died only weeks ago. What happened to Julie Schossow and Marilyn Putt?

I searched Reddit and was surprised not to see a writeup of this case, particularly when it has been mentioned with serial killers including Leonard Lake and Zodiac (although, IMO, both seem unlikely suspects). Much of the accessible coverage (e.g., from the El Dorado DA) lacks details about the circumstances of their disappearance. I apologize in advance that this isn’t the smoothest writeup, but I’m trying to weave together details from a couple of different sources into a cohesive and accurate account.
The Disappearance
Julie Schossow, 25, and Marilyn Putt, 27, were close friends. They had both worked as blackjack dealers at the Harrah's Casino in South Lake Tahoe, on the border of Nevada and California, since May 1980. Marilyn had a 5-year-old son, Jason, and they had lived in a rented house at 725 Los Angeles Avenue since October 1981. The Putts shared the house with a roommate, Colleen Gore, who often helped take care of Jason. Schossow was in between apartments and temporarily living in the home as well. Neighbors recalled there were often many cars at the house, although there weren’t wild or noisy parties there. Jason was often seen playing in the snow with other neighborhood children.
On January 12, 1982, Schossow and Putt had both worked at Harrah’s and then returned home after their shift. What is known about the intervening hours seems to come largely from their roommate, Colleen Gore. Schossow and Putt told Gore they were going “to party,” and at approximately 1 AM, a car horn sounded outside of the house and the women left.
Both victims were seen drinking together at the Rendezvous Bar inside Harrah’s and leaving a bar with some men that evening, however I do not know if this happened before they returned home or after they went out again to party. Colleen told police that sometime during the night, Schossow came back to pick up her car. Putt called 11 hours later (unclear if this is at noon on January 13, or 11 hours after Schossow returned for the car) and said they had “met a couple of rich guys” and were headed to Sacramento or San Francisco. Putt asked Gore to babysit her son.
Gore did not report the women missing for four days. This would have been approximately January 17.
On February 2, police found Schossow’s brown Honda in the Harrah’s parking lot, covered in snow and with flat tires. Police said this indicated the car had been there since the day the women went missing, January 13. (What is mystifying is why the police knew the women were missing since January 17, knew Schossow’s car was missing, and knew both women worked at Harrah’s—yet apparently didn’t check that parking lot until February 2.)
Note this interesting passage in an article from February 18, 1982, in the Reno Gazette-Journal: “The neighbors and some of the women’s co-workers from Harrah’s are reluctant to talk about Putt and Schossow. One Los Angeles Avenue woman said she was worried about retribution from the ‘two men the girls were with that night,’ and the Harrah’s workers have been ordered by casino officials not to talk about the missing dealers.”
Discovery of the Bodies
On June 6, 1982, almost six months later, the body of Marilyn Putt was discovered in the South Fork of the American River, one mile west of an area known as Chili Bar off of Highway 193. Her body was nude and had been weighted down with chains and binding material and the cause of death appears to be ligature strangulation, with the time of death being estimated at 6-8 weeks prior to her body being found.
One month later, on July 9, 1982, the body of Julie Schossow was discovered also in the South Fork of the American River, approximately 150 yards from where Marilyn Putt's body had been discovered. She had a cord tightly wrapped around her neck two times and the coroner could not rule out the fact that she may have been bound together with Marilyn Putt. The cause of death appears to be ligature strangulation, with the time of death being estimated at 6-8 weeks prior to her body being found.
Given the discrepancy between the time the women went missing and the estimated time of death, it is believed that the women were held captive for approximately three months, believed to be somewhere in between South Lake Tahoe and Placerville.
Other events or potential leads
*Notably, another woman, Debney Lynn Lobanoff, 28, went missing not long before these women in December 1981. Her nude body was found floating in the Slab Creek Reservoir on July 3, 1982, in between the discoveries of Putt’s and Schossow’s bodies and approximately 7.5 miles upstream. According to her husband, Debney left with two “biker-type” men. This case also remains unsolved.
*In 2016, the El Dorado District Attorney’s Office launched a campaign to revive this cold case and made a specific request: “If there’s anyone out there that’s directly involved with or associated with the Church of Scientology in South Lake Tahoe, you may or may not know you have information that could be helpful, so please contact us.” The DA’s website further notes, “Although not a member herself, Marilyn Putt was closely associated with several leading members of the Church of Scientology.”
*In February this year, the El Dorado DA’s office announced they had used genetic genealogy databases to identify Joseph Holt, a local real estate worker, as the man who kidnapped and killed a woman, Brynn Rainey, in 1977 and a teenaged girl, Carol Andersen, in 1979. Rainey was last seen at a bar just before her 2 AM shift at a South Lake Tahoe Casino; her body was found in a shallow grave and her cause of death was believed to be strangulation or suffocation. Andersen disappeared on her way home from a party near a South Lake Tahoe ski resort. Her body was found dumped by the side of the road a few miles away; she had been bound and strangled. Unfortunately, justice evaded Holt as he died in 2014.
Questions
--How is it that the women weren’t reported missing for so many days? January 13, 1982, was a Wednesday—it seems, especially during ski season, that it’s unlikely that both of them would have had multiple consecutive days off of work and over a weekend, but it appears that no one (Harrah’s or the roommate) reported the women missing until Saturday or Sunday.
--The quotation from the anonymous neighbor is also odd—why would they be worried about retribution? Were these two men known to locals, but perhaps not to the women? Although they had both been there for some time, they were both transplants.
--Were they held captive for months, or is there another explanation for the discrepancy in between their date of disappearance and apparent times of death?
--Why is the DA currently inquiring about the Church of Scientology?
--Holt’s MO doesn’t sound dissimilar from the circumstances of Putt and Schossow’s case except that evidence is pointing towards two men. Could Holt have had or later taken on a partner? It’s interesting to note that he worked in real estate given it appears the women were held captive.
What do you think happened to Julie and Marilyn?

Sources
Julie Schossow & Marilyn Putt’s case info:
https://www.eldoradocoldcase.com/victim/index.html?NewsID=45648
https://blog.edcda.com/2016/07/07/1982-cold-case-homicide-revisited-marilyn-putt-and-julie-schossow/
Brief video by the El Dorado County Cold Case Task Force about the case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO5PxH6rFeE
Debney Lobanoff:
https://www.eldoradocoldcase.com/victim/index.html?NewsID=45649
https://newspaperarchive.com/placerville-mountain-democrat-apr-18-1984-p-16/
Joseph Holt case:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/investigators-solve-1970s-cold-cases-with-emerging-dna-technique-today-2019-02-25/?fbclid=IwAR1CfHq6zwmNSTPPVpnnPp6D517L9zU3RG_RqvlakgaSL6tdWmxz161BzNI
https://www.kolotv.com/content/news/Two-decades-old-El-Dorado-County-cold-cases-solved-506390741.html
Other sources:
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2016/06/08/cold-case-murders-reopened-with-questions-for-church-of-scientology/
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article88292277.html
https://www.tahoedailytribune.com/news/information-sought-in-1982-south-lake-tahoe-killings/
https://www.newspapers.com/image/?clipping_id=9776368&fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjE0OTY1OTIwNCwiaWF0IjoxNTYxNDc5MjI5LCJleHAiOjE1NjE1NjU2Mjl9.jK1hrxhcfwdV9JM0ox6wUKsOQObiUm7g1tniwDtNL3E
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/9556461/julie_schossow1/
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A Game Mathematician's Perspective on Slot Games and the Casino Manipulation Video

Hi there! I'm a first-time poster inspired by the "How the Casino Industry Manipulates You" video.

I'm a Game Mathematician at a big company in the gaming industry, which basically means I create the math for land-based slot games. Here's what I can say about the games we make (and casinos in general):

  1. The gaming industry is the most regulated industry in the United States. Each reputable production company has a QA team or department that tests the RNGs, animations, game rules, art, and just about every component of the EGM (electronic gaming machine). After this process, the game gets sent off to one of the few third-party testing companies to further verify the game. The third and (hopefully) final part of this testing timeline is sending the game to each of its jurisdictions where they will be tested and approved by the jurisdiction's gaming control board. If at ANY point in this process there is something wrong with the game, something that does not have a simple remedy, the game goes back to step 1 and must repeat all of the following steps. This whole process takes about 6 months for a project that passes all the steps.
  2. Trends in gaming tend to last, at least for the last 6 years or so. It takes approximately 1.5-2 years between having the concept for a game to releasing it (of course there are exceptions to this rule, but this is ideal). So if a game company is piggy-backing on a successful title or game mechanic from their own company or a competitor, and if multiple companies are doing so, then that style of game will see support later on. Asian themes have taken off in the last decade, and now each new game either starts out with an Asian theme or has a clone (same math, different art) with Asian theming. The hold-and-spin game mechanic (where certain symbols stay on a the screen and other ones re-spin) has been dominating casinos for 5 years now, and the trend will most likely not stop.
  3. Production companies try to get as much information as possible from the casino floors as possible. There are monthly third-party reports from gaming research companies that work with many casinos across the United States and other countries that companies pay to see game performance compared to house average (and other stats) for different parameters (i.e. newly indexed games, leased games, for-sale games, etc.). Casinos also subscribe to these reports and may base their next placement decisions on them. There are also certain statistics that production companies can get that are private, but those are often limited in scope and are left to much interpretation.
  4. The sales departments of production companies strategize to help casinos make their purchases and literal placement on the casino floor. Some games should be put next to ones from different game families, and others should just stand out apart from any other game (not live on a "bank" with non-family games). The positioning of a game on a casino floor can certainly make or break its performance. The merchandise/signage for a game also comes into play at this stage. Players might be taken in to play a game if it has a popping LED sign with animations rather than a similar game without as much presence.
  5. From a game design perspective, we try as hard as possible to make sure players will come back to the EGM on their next casino trip. We aim to minimize the bad experiences a player can have while keeping a eye on how many great experiences we provide. We perform session analysis on both statistical and anecdotal levels to see if we are meeting the goals for that specific project. We also often think of the players we are trying to target. "Will the player attracted to this game put in $40 or $400?" Ultimately we are trying to give them what they want, while still taking their money. Entertainment players will want to see bonuses and cool features happen whereas gambler players will want that one super great hit with plenty of mediocre wins in-between.
  6. There are MANY myths related to slot games. First of all, "timing" isn't real, at least for modern games (up to the last 20 years or so). An RNG is pulled with each press of the "bet" button. Furthermore each wagered spin (each bet made) is NOT dependent in any way/shape/form on the previous spin's outcome. There is one exception to this rule in one mechanic, but the mathematics of it are hard to explain in layman's terms. Slot machines don't rubber-band, they can't switch to a losing streak after a win streak. Essentially, everything is random when it comes to a slot game, so don't think otherwise.

Thank you for reading my novel.

P.S. I'm from Reno, NV. For the record, 1) it's pronounced Neh-VAAAH-Duh and 2) our casinos are pretty split between the Friedman design (Circus-Circus, El Dorado, Peppermill) and the Adult Playground design (GSR, Atlantis, Silver Legacy).
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Julie Schossow and Marilyn Putt disappeared in South Lake Tahoe, CA, in January 1982. Their bodies were recovered months later, although they were determined to be dead for only weeks.

Please note the first part of this writeup was originally posted on UnresolvedMysteries earlier this year, but locals have chimed in to clarify some points and answer some questions. More importantly, Marilyn’s sister reached out and provided new information that paints a very different story than existing media coverage, and also enlightens the El Dorado County DA's renewed call for information, which had mystified many people. If you recall the previous post you may wish to skip to the “New information” section.
The Disappearance
Julie Schossow, 25, and Marilyn Putt, 27, were close friends. They had both worked as blackjack dealers at the Harrah's Casino in South Lake Tahoe, on the border of Nevada and California, since May 1980. Marilyn had a 5-year-old son, Jason, and they had lived in a rented house at 725 Los Angeles Avenue since October 1981. The Putts shared the house with a roommate, Colleen Gore, who often helped take care of Jason. Schossow was in between apartments and temporarily living in the home as well. Neighbors recalled there were often many cars at the house, although there weren’t wild or noisy parties there. Jason was often seen playing in the snow with other neighborhood children.
On Tuesday, January 12, 1982, Schossow and Putt had both worked at Harrah’s and then returned home after their shift. What is known about the intervening hours seems to come largely from their roommate, Colleen Gore. Schossow and Putt told Gore they were going “to party,” and at approximately 1 AM, a car horn sounded outside of the house and the women left.
Both victims were seen drinking together at the Rendezvous Bar inside Harrah’s and leaving a bar with some men that evening, however I do not know if this happened before they returned home or after they went out again to party. Gore told police that sometime during the night, Schossow came back to pick up her car. Putt called 11 hours later (unclear if this is at noon on January 13, or 11 hours after Schossow returned for the car) and said they had “met a couple of rich guys” and were headed to Sacramento or San Francisco. Putt asked Gore to babysit her son.
Gore did not report the women missing for four days. This would have been approximately January 17.
On February 2, police found Schossow’s brown Honda in the Harrah’s parking lot, covered in snow and with flat tires. Police said this indicated the car had been there since the day the women went missing, January 13. This seemed odd at first, but locals have clarified there was a snowstorm around that time. It was not uncommon for cars to be buried for long periods of time, and tires can go flat. There was no sign of the missing women, however.
An article from February 18, 1982, in the Reno Gazette-Journal stated: “The neighbors and some of the women’s co-workers from Harrah’s are reluctant to talk about Putt and Schossow. One Los Angeles Avenue woman said she was worried about retribution from the ‘two men the girls were with that night,’ and the Harrah’s workers have been ordered by casino officials not to talk about the missing dealers.”
On June 6, 1982, almost six months later, the body of Marilyn Putt was discovered in the South Fork of the American River, one mile west of an area known as Chili Bar off of Highway 193. Her body was nude and had been weighted down with chains and binding material and the cause of death appears to be ligature strangulation, with the time of death being estimated at 6-8 weeks prior to her body being found.
One month later, on July 9, 1982, the body of Julie Schossow was discovered also in the South Fork of the American River, approximately 150 yards from where Marilyn Putt's body had been discovered. She had a cord tightly wrapped around her neck two times and the coroner could not rule out the fact that she may have been bound together with Marilyn Putt. The cause of death appears to be ligature strangulation, with the time of death being estimated at 6-8 weeks prior to her body being found.
Given the discrepancy between the time the women went missing and the estimated time of death, it is believed that the women were held captive for approximately three months, believed to be somewhere in between South Lake Tahoe and Placerville.
Other events or potential leads
*Notably, another woman, Debney Lynn Lobanoff, 28, went missing not long before these women in December 1981. Her nude body was found floating in the Slab Creek Reservoir on July 3, 1982, in between the discoveries of Putt’s and Schossow’s bodies and approximately 7.5 miles upstream. According to her husband, Debney left with two “biker-type” men. This case also remains unsolved.
*In 2016, the El Dorado District Attorney’s Office launched a campaign to revive this cold case and made a specific request: “If there’s anyone out there that’s directly involved with or associated with the Church of Scientology in South Lake Tahoe, you may or may not know you have information that could be helpful, so please contact us.” The DA’s website further notes, “Although not a member herself, Marilyn Putt was closely associated with several leading members of the Church of Scientology.”
*In February this year, the El Dorado DA’s office announced they had used genetic genealogy databases to identify Joseph Holt, a local real estate worker, as the man who kidnapped and killed a woman, Brynn Rainey, in 1977 and a teenaged girl, Carol Andersen, in 1979. Rainey was last seen at a bar just before her 2 AM shift at a South Lake Tahoe Casino; her body was found in a shallow grave and her cause of death was believed to be strangulation or suffocation. Andersen disappeared on her way home from a party near a South Lake Tahoe ski resort. Her body was found dumped by the side of the road a few miles away; she had been bound and strangled. Unfortunately, justice evaded Holt as he died in 2014.
New information from Marilyn Putt’s sister
Marilyn’s sister responded to the original above and provided valuable information and her recollection of events, many of which contradict roommate Colleen Gore’s narrative.
First, her sister noted that something had gone down in between Gore and Putt. “On Monday, my sister called me and told me she had to move as soon as possible. I asked why would she need to move out of the cute cabin she was so thrilled to rent. She told me that I wouldn’t believe what her room mate and her boyfriend are doing. She wouldn’t give me details over the phone because they might hear, just that it was very bad and she wanted no part of it. She told me that she no longer trusted her room mate to watch her son and just needed me to come help her move on Wednesday. She didn’t even want them to know she was moving.”
The women went out on Tuesday night and were last seen on Tuesday night. Marilyn's sister said that their mother had called Marilyn and talked to her at her home around midnight on Tuesday. It seems important to clarify when eyewitnesses saw Putt and Schossow out--Tuesday night, or in the early hours of Wednesday.
No media reports that I came across suggested that Gore was behaving in a shady manner, although it was odd why it took four days for her to report the women missing—particularly given Gore was taking care of Putt’s son. The fact that Putt would come back to retrieve her car (after allegedly leaving at 1 AM according to Gore’s account) never made much sense—but it seems the only source for this claim is Gore.
Marilyn’s sister drove in from Sacramento on Wednesday to help her sister move: “When I arrived Wednesday morning, I had my boyfriend and another couple with me to help. When I knocked on the door, her room mate answered but only opened the door about an inch. She said my sister had gone to work and she was indisposed.”
Marilyn’s sister went to Harrah’s, found out Marilyn didn’t show up for her shift, and searched for her sister at Harrah’s. Unsuccessful, she called Gore. “We hung out there for a bit and finally I called the room mate back and told her the situation. That’s when the room mate told me that my sister had just called to tell her to watch her son because she had spent the night with some rich guy and now they were going to San Francisco. I was so confused! Why would she go to San Francisco when she wanted to move and she knew I was coming? Why did she leave her son with the person she just told me she didn’t trust especially when she knew I was coming up and she could just hand him off to me. Why would she take off with someone she barely knew? None of it made sense.” Indeed, the inconsistency in the stories makes Gore seem very suspicious. Why the sudden change in stories?
Marilyn’s sister returned to the house, where Gore let her in. Marilyn’s sister found all of Marilyn’s stuff packed up in boxes in the closet in her room, including an overnight bag. If Marilyn had come back to pick up her car before running off to San Francisco, why wouldn’t she have picked up her pre-packed overnight bag? Gore was convincing, however, and Marilyn’s sister went back to Sacramento.
Marilyn’s sister continued checking in with Gore. It wasn’t until she threatened to drive to Tahoe and file the missing person report herself that Gore finally reported it to the police.
One last thing Marilyn’s sister pointed may be a clue as to why the 2016 revival of the case by the DA asks about Scientologists: “As a side note, Marilyn’s room mate used to live with Marilyn’s babysitter until there was a falling out and she moved in with Marilyn. The babysitter, the room mate and the babysitter ‘s ex husband all belonged to the Church of Scientology.”
Marilyn’s sister ended her story on a heartbreaking note: “There are many more unexplained details to this case but I’m sure none of it will make a difference now. I have come to the agonizing conclusion that we will never get the whole story as probably many of the people involved may have died themselves or have no memory left.”
One small piece of good news in the wake of this tragedy: Marilyn’s sister reported that her son Jason “has managed to overcome all and leaves a happy and successful life.”
I think the sister's information puts an entirely new perspective on this case. What do you think happened to Julie and Marilyn?
Sources
Julie Schossow & Marilyn Putt’s case info:
https://www.eldoradocoldcase.com/victim/index.html?NewsID=45648
https://blog.edcda.com/2016/07/07/1982-cold-case-homicide-revisited-marilyn-putt-and-julie-schossow/
Brief video by the El Dorado County Cold Case Task Force about the case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO5PxH6rFeE
Debney Lobanoff:
https://www.eldoradocoldcase.com/victim/index.html?NewsID=45649
https://newspaperarchive.com/placerville-mountain-democrat-apr-18-1984-p-16/
Joseph Holt case:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/investigators-solve-1970s-cold-cases-with-emerging-dna-technique-today-2019-02-25/?fbclid=IwAR1CfHq6zwmNSTPPVpnnPp6D517L9zU3RG_RqvlakgaSL6tdWmxz161BzNI
https://www.kolotv.com/content/news/Two-decades-old-El-Dorado-County-cold-cases-solved-506390741.html
Other sources:
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2016/06/08/cold-case-murders-reopened-with-questions-for-church-of-scientology/
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article88292277.html
https://www.tahoedailytribune.com/news/information-sought-in-1982-south-lake-tahoe-killings/
https://www.newspapers.com/image/?clipping_id=9776368&fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjE0OTY1OTIwNCwiaWF0IjoxNTYxNDc5MjI5LCJleHAiOjE1NjE1NjU2Mjl9.jK1hrxhcfwdV9JM0ox6wUKsOQObiUm7g1tniwDtNL3E
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/9556461/julie_schossow1/
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Tahoe Summer 2018 Event Calendar

A lot is going on in Tahoe during the summer, so here’s a continuously updated listing of events happening around the lake! Feel free to comment below with any updates, I will periodically edit the post with new events that folks send me. See revision notes at the bottom of this post.
Things not included: shows that happen every week all year around (like the Improv at Harvey’s or the Magic Fusion at The Loft), free weekly shows at venues like the CBC and Alibi Truckee (check their event calendars for those!), and children’s camps/classes. I reserve the right to not include every event folks send; a truly comprehensive list would quickly become useless with too many items on it, so I will be a little selective.

Popular Venues

Name Address
Alibi Ale Works Truckee Public House 10069 Bridge St. Truckee, CA 96161
Crystal Bay Club (CBC) 14 NV 28, Crystal Bay, NV 89402
Hard Rock Hotel & Casino 50 US 50, Stateline, NV 89449
Harrah’s Lake Tahoe 15 US 50, Stateline, NV 89449
Harvey’s Lake Tahoe 18 US 50, Stateline, NV 89449
Heavenly California Lodge 3860 Saddle Rd, South Lake Tahoe, CA 96150
Kirkwood Mountain Resort 1501 Kirkwood Meadows Dr, Kirkwood, CA 95646
Lake Tahoe AleWorX 2050 Lake Tahoe Blvd, South Lake Tahoe, CA 96150
The Loft Theater 1001 Heavenly Village Way, South Lake Tahoe, CA 96150
Montbleu 55 US 50, Stateline, NV 89449
Northstar California Resort 5001 Northstar Dr, Truckee, CA 96161
Lake Tahoe Shakespeare Festival (Sand Harbor) 2005 NV 28, Incline Village, NV
South Lake Brewing 1920 Lake Tahoe Blvd, South Lake Tahoe, CA 96150
Squaw Valley Resort 1960 Squaw Valley Rd, Olympic Valley, CA 96146
Whiskey Dick’s 2660 Lake Tahoe Blvd, South Lake Tahoe, CA 96150

Repeating Events

Event Dates Location
Concerts at Commons Beach Every Sunday, starting June 17 Tahoe City - Commons Beach
Live at Lakeview Every Thursday, starting June 21 South Lake Tahoe - Lakeview Commons (El Dorado Beach)
Music on the Beach Every Friday, starting June 29 Kings Beach State Recreation Area
Beehive - The 60s Musical Various, starting July 6 Sand Harbor
Macbeth Various, starting July 13 Sand Harbor

May

Date Event Location
19 The Novelists Alibi Ale Works Truckee Public House
19 The Head and the Heart Harrah’s
19 50 Dates in 50 States Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
19 Keep Tahoe Blue - Snapshot Day Lake Tahoe Community College
19 Lou Gramm (founding member of Foreigner) Montbleu
24 Cyclepaths’ Summer Kick Off Party + Movie Premiere Alibi Ale Works Truckee Public House
24 Sharkmouth Alibi Ale Works Truckee Public House
24 Lake Tahoe’s Reggae Spring Splash Featuring: Steel Pulse Montbleu
25 Last Friday DJ Series feat. DJ Disco Terrorist Alibi Ale Works Truckee Public House
25-26 South Lake Brewing 2nd Anniversary Party South Lake Brewing
26 Bob Newhart Harrah’s
26 Femmes of Rock Starring Bella Electric Strings Montbleu
26-27 Made in Tahoe Festival Squaw Valley
27 Trevor Hall with Tim Snider Crystal Bay Club

June

Date Event Location
2 Tahoe Brewfest Heavenly California Lodge
2 Tahoe Brewfest After Party The Loft
2 Lake Street Dive Montbleu
2 Keep Tahoe Blue - Tahoe City Beach Cleanup Tahoe City - Commons Beach
3 Omg Fun Run! Meyer’s Community
9 The Monkees Harrah’s
9 Hot August Nights at Squaw Valley Squaw Valley
9 Keep Tahoe Blue - Tahoe Forest Stewardship Day Spring Upper Truckee River
16 Slightly Stoopid Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
16 Soulcirque Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
16 Rock Tahoe Half Marathon Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
21 Trampled by Turtles Montbleu
22 Comedy Cage Match Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
23 Robert Plant and the Sensational Space Shifters Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
29 Maximono The Loft
30 Margaret Cho Montbleu

July

Date Event Location
3 Kenny Chesney Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
5 Keep Tahoe Red, White, and Blue Beach Cleanup Various beaches
7 Zepparella “All Female Tribute to Led Zeppelin” Crystal Bay Club
7 Alt-Rock Reload Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
7 Beerfest & Bluegrass Festival Northstar California Resort
13 Evening with Pitbull Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
13 Katchafire Montbleu
14 Eric Johnson Crystal Bay Club
14-15 Art, Wine & Music Festival Squaw Valley
16 Reno Philharmonic: Remember When Rock Was Young - The Elton John Tribute Sand Harbor
17-18 The Infamous Stringdusters Harrah’s
17-18 Karl Denson’s Tiny Universe Montbleu
17-18 Phish Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
19-22 Wanderlust Festival Squaw Valley
20 Melissa Etheridge Montbleu
21 Tainted Love Crystal Bay Club
21-22 Keith Urban Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
23 Sierra Nevada Ballet: A Midsummer Night’s Dream – The Ballet Sand Harbor
25 Luke Bryan Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
26 Chris Stapleton Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
28 The Decemberists Montbleu
28 Bikes & Brews Kirkwood Mountain Resort
30 Reno Jazz Orchestra: New Orleans, A Night in the Big Easy Sand Harbor

August

Date Event Location
3 ZoSo “The Ultimate Led Zeppelin Experience” Crystal Bay Club
3 The Temptations Montbleu
4 Matisyahu Montbleu
4 Ice Cube Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
6 Reno Philharmonic: Bravo on The Beach: Best of Broadway Sand Harbor
9 Florence and the Machine Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
10 “Brews, Jazz and Funk Pre Party” ft. The Floozies w/ Big Sam’s Funky Nation Crystal Bay Club
10 Janet Jackson Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
11 Papa Roach Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
11-12 Brews, Jazz and Funk Fest Squaw Valley
12 Bloody Mary Competition Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
12 Amy Schumer & Friends Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
13 Super Diamond: The Neil Diamond Tribute Sand Harbor
17 Steve Miller Band and Peter Frampton Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
18 Petty Theft “Tribute to Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers” Crystal Bay Club
18 Charlie Puth with Hailee Steinfeld Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
18 BB King’s Blues Band Montbleu
20 Mindi Abair & The Boneshakers: A Powerhouse Sax and Detroit Funk/Rock Concert Sand Harbor
22 Nahko and Medicine for the People w/ Xiuhtezcatl Crystal Bay Club
24 Evening with Donny & Marie Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
31 Scorpions and Queensrÿche Harvey’s Outdoor Arena

September

Date Event Location
1 Reno Jazz Orchestra: An Evening with Tierney Sutton Sand Harbor
1 Foam Fest Squaw Valley
2 Alpen Wine Fest Squaw Valley
7 Dave Matthews Band Harvey’s Outdoor Arena
7 Guitar Strings vs. Chicken Wings Squaw Valley
13 Galactic Crystal Bay Club
21-22 Thunder from Down Under Harrah’s
22 Oktoberfest Squaw Valley
29 Oktoberfest Tahoe City

Revision History

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Had a great "Everyone is John" session recently.

If you haven't played this game yet, it is a lot of fun.
I played with my weekly board game group, who are a little wary of table-top rpg's. It took some persuading but we had a great time.
We did two rounds: the first one was a little shakey as the players got used to the rules and the idea of a table-top rpg in general. The second was a lot more fun.
We set the game in Reno, where we live, so that we would have a better grasp of whatever surroundings John found himself in. We also gave each voice three obsessions instead of just one, which made gameplay a lot more diverse and unpredictable.
Round 1: John wakes up at a Roulette table at the El Dorado Casino. We steals a cup of quarters off of a slot machine, goes upstairs, orders a sandwich at a bar, and falls asleep waiting for it to arrive. He wakes up to a security guard asking him to leave. Takes the sandwich with him, and finds himself on the street. He follows a passerby to the Silver Legacy casino next door, touches the inside of an old woman's elbow, picks up (like lifts off the ground) a cocktail waitress, and runs out the door with her. The waitress finally escapes, John runs across the street to a biker bar, steals all of the steak knives, and hides in the alley when the cops go by. In the alley, he persuades two meth heads to fight with steak knives over the sandwich, then stabs another meth head for good measure before everyone runs out of willpower.
Obsessions fulfilled:
Steal something x3. Stalk someone x1. Touch the inside of someone's elbow x1. kidnap a casino employee x1. Make someone bleed x3.
Round 2: John wakes up in an AA meeting. High fives his neighbor. Seductively touches his thigh, makes out with him, gets kicked out of the AA meeting. He and his new friend walk down to the river where they take their clothes off, and go for a swim. John tries to drown his new friend. Friend escapes, but John gets his wallet first. Persuades someone to let him drive his car for $20. (John is still naked). Goes to a pawn shop, tries to rob it, fails. John then goes to a gas station, buys a bottle of sparkling water, and convinces someone to give him some clothes. Then he starts making out with a stranger and tries to barf into his mouth. Stranger escapes. John steals a car and drives to a dog kennel where the party runs out of willpower as he tries to break in.
Obsessions fulfilled:
Make out with someone x2. Drink sparkling water x1. High five a stranger x1.
Obsessions attempted:
Rob a pawn shop. Drown someone. Throw up into someone's mouth. Release a pack of dogs to attack someone.
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